Raven Rock

Pretty unimpressive, isn’t it?  Would you believe me if I told you there is a whole military installation built under there?  Maybe a different photo would help…

This is a story I found when I went searching for interesting places to see in PA…only you aren’t allowed in…and shhhhh…it’s supposed to be a secret…LOL

When Raven Rock Mountain Complex was being built in southern Pennsylvania during the late 1940s, locals jokingly called it “Harry’s Hole” for President Harry Truman. Residents would hold picnics while watching the excavations and blastings. Many worked on its construction.

It was never completely a secret. But it stayed close to one for a while, mainly because no one said anything, said Garrett Graff, a journalist and author of the new book “Raven Rock: The Story of the U.S. Government’s Secret Plan to Save Itself – While the Rest of Us Die.”

“This was relatively well known to the locals who worked there or had family who worked there,” Graff told PhillyVoice in an interview. “They just kept it quiet.”

The lid on Raven Rock has slowly been peeled. Located just north of the Maryland border, three hours west of Philadelphia and a short distance from Washington, D.C., it’s clearly labeled on Google Maps and been documented in books and articles.

It also isn’t a relic. Raven Rock is fully operational, and should the United States break out into nuclear war, it’s where defense operations would likely be centered.

“Raven Rock is the place where nuclear war in the United States would begin,” Graff said.

The Raven Rock Mountain Complex was carved into the ground during a period of panic.

As the threat of a Soviet nuclear attack loomed, “ordinary families were being encouraged to dig fallout shelters in their backyards,” investigative journalist Eric Schlosser wrote in his 2013 book “Command and Control: Nuclear Weapons, the Damascus Accident, and the Illusion of Safety.”

At the same time, the military and government were digging holes of their own. A bomb shelter had been built below the East Wing of the White House for President Franklin Roosevelt during World War II, a bunker that was expanded during Truman’s administration.

Planning for a Soviet attack, however, “made it seem necessary to move America’s commander-in-chief someplace even deeper underground,” according to Schlosser.

The result was a bunker inside Raven Rock Mountain, and it was massive. Per “Command and Control”:

“Known as Site R, it sat about a half a mile inside Raven Rock and another half a mile below the mountain’s peak. It had power stations, underground water reservoirs, a small chapel, clusters of three-story buildings set within vast caverns, and enough beds to accommodate two thousand high-ranking officials from the Pentagon, the State Department, and the National Security Council.”

Graff said you can add to that list police and fire departments, a cafeteria, and “everything else you would find in a normal small city.”

The complex was finished in 1953 and has operated 24 hours a day, every day since 1961. 

Some of the bunker’s facilities are located on or around the mountain, such as the fire department sitting on the peak. Most of the complex, however, is underground. Once the blast doors seal, Raven Rock’s dwellers can live there for weeks at a time. 

‘Portals’ A and B are visible at the Raven Rock Mountain Complex near Waynesboro in southern Pennsylvania in this image from GoogleEarth. Once the blast doors are sealed, dwellers can live there for weeks at a time.

After the Cold War, many bunkers built in anticipation of nuclear apocalypse became obsolete, such as the fallout shelter underneath a West Virginia resort that’s now a museum.

Others, like Raven Rock, were kept operational — but barely. That changed after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

“It was more in mothball status,” Graff said. “It wasn’t quite as dramatic as someone walking into the mountain and turning on the lights, but operational-wise, that’s what happened on 9/11.”

The government kicked Raven Rock into gear. The facilities underwent a large expansion, Graff said. About 100 people work there under normal circumstances, but it can now hold about 5,000 in an emergency.

“Raven Rock today is a much more capable and larger facility than it was during the height of the Cold War,” Graff said.

In the days following the 9/11 attacks, Vice President Dick Cheney famously used Raven Rock as one of several secret hideaways while his office tried to shield his whereabouts.

“We know it’s there, we know why it’s there, and that’s as much as we know” — Richard Starliper, mayor of nearby Waynesboro, Pennsylvania.

Graff clarified there’s no evidence Cheney spent the day of the attacks there, but he definitely went afterward. Some defense officials, like Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, were taken directly to the mountain complex.

Raven Rock is one of two very similar facilities meant to house officials in case of an attack, with the other being the Mount Weather complex in Virginia. Mount Weather is run by FEMA, and would house most of the civilian government in an emergency.

The Pentagon runs Raven Rock, and it’s where national security would operate in the event of catastrophe or war, like if a President were to truly release “fire and fury” on North Korea — or vice versa.

“If at this exact moment the president decides he wants to launch nuclear war, or North Korea does, and for whatever reason he’s not able to reach the Pentagon, he would call Raven Rock,” Graff said.

Considering the heavy responsibility the complex would carry in the wake of tragedy, it’s not surprising the government has tried keeping a tight lip on Raven Rock. But there have been blips.

While working on their 2008 book “A Nuclear Family Vacation,” defense reporters Nathan Hodge and Sharon Weinberger were seemingly accidentally given information regarding a conference at Raven Rock about underground military facilities.

The reporters simply asked a point of contact for the conference about the event after coming across a notice for it on a Pentagon agency’s website. They were handed informational packets distributed to attendees that highlighted the level of secrecy surrounding Raven Rock, which was referred to as RRMC.

“Guidance” for those attending the conference included the following rules: “Avoid conversations about RRMC with unauthorized personnel,” “Do not confirm or deny information about RRMC to reporters or radio stations,” and “Do not post RRMC information on internet web pages.”

It continues: “Remember: The more the public knows about this facility, the more our adversaries do, and the more vulnerable we become.”

A few days after the reporters obtained the information, the Defense Threat Reduction Agency took down the notice about the conference. Hodge and Weinberger presumed someone at the Pentagon got in trouble.

Only in the past quarter century since the Cold War has information about Raven Rock become more public, “a testament to the limited communications technologies of the era” when it was constructed, according to Graff.

Raven Rock’s relationship with the surrounding community has changed too, particularly since the closure of the Fort Ritchie Army base across the border in Maryland. Some residents of nearby Waynesboro, Pennsylvania, who formerly worked at Fort Ritchie would be stationed at Raven Rock, according to the town’s mayor, Richard Starliper.

“These days you have no idea who works there or what they do,” Starliper said.

The complex is both a mystery and not at all, a sentiment summed up rather appropriately by the Waynesboro mayor.

“We know it’s there,” he said, “we know why it’s there, and that’s as much as we know.”

***There is an unprovable rumor that is interesting***

“I don`t know if it’s true or not,” a Waynesboro resident says, “But there`s supposed to be an underground tunnel from Virginia where they could drive up if they wanted to.”

The resident is referring to the popular rumor that there is an elaborate underground network of tunnels between Washington D.C., nearby Camp David, and Raven Rock so the President or Vice President could escape harm if disaster strikes.

That rumor, according to one D.C. Insider, is categorically false.

SOURCE:

https://www.phillyvoice.com/story-behind-gigantic-not-so-secret-pennsylvania-bunker-where-nuclear-war-us-would-begin/

181 thoughts on “Raven Rock

      1. Morning!! thanks for taking care of things yesterday!
        I dunno…but i bet it’s a lot!
        they gotta save themselves from all the destruction they’re causing!

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  2. he really IS brain dead…

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      1. i didn’t see it at M’s…I haven’t even begun to read back yet…lol
        catching up on the news…but i did post something about it below.
        AND…ultra maggot letting the cat out of the bag about john’s “future”

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  3. for pete’s sake

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  4. wolf has the scoop on project veritas

    Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy(@wolfmoon1776)Online
    Wolf
    February 9, 2023 01:07

    Real scoop on Project Veritas!!!

    The enemies of @JamesOKeefeIII are the enemies of our movement.

    Snakes have masqueraded as lions and worked themselves into powerful positions in the RNC and the conservative movement as a whole. https://t.co/QEsvrhIHZk

    — Madison Cawthorn (@CawthornforNC) February 9, 2023

    THREAD: The Project Veritas Coup

    A whistleblower has contacted me about the news that @JamesOKeefeIII was put on leave and stripped of all authority at @Project_Veritas

    This is difficult for me to publish, as a STAUNCH supporter of PV for years & even a VIP at their events.

    — Swig 🇺🇸 (@OldRowSwig) February 9, 2023

    James is a bit of a victim of poor corporate structure, as PV is 2 separate orgs a 501c3 which had very FEW board members and the majority of the $$$ and a 501c4, which had significantly more board members but less $$$

    — Swig 🇺🇸 (@OldRowSwig) February 9, 2023

    Board members and C Suite officers involved in this according to my source are as follows:

    Board members:
    Matt Tyrmand – Ringleader
    John Garvey
    George Skakel
    Joseph Barton (not the congressman)
    Steve Alembik

    CFO: Tom O’Hara
    COO: Barry Hinckley (Ringleader pronouns in bio) pic.twitter.com/IRI5kS1O43

    — Swig 🇺🇸 (@OldRowSwig) February 9, 2023

    “about ten employees aired their grievances about James, which essentially boiled down to him being a tough boss to work for. At the end of this six hour struggle session, Tyrmand and fellow board member John Garvey put him on leave and stripped him of all authority.”

    — Swig 🇺🇸 (@OldRowSwig) February 9, 2023

    This comes in the immediate aftermath of @Project_Veritas GREATEST moment ever, exposing corruption at Pfizer, which my source thought was EXTREMELY SUSPICIOUS timing.

    You boot the founder right after your biggest win of all time???

    PV must explain this situation!!!

    — Swig 🇺🇸 (@OldRowSwig) February 9, 2023

    If @JamesOKeefeIII leaves, I will no longer support @Project_Veritas and will support whichever venture he starts instead. My source says that the rank and file employees are STILL WITH JAMES, the board needs to realize PV will likely not survive if the go through with this!

    — Swig 🇺🇸 (@OldRowSwig) February 9, 2023

    Exactly. Boardflies. This is how Bill Gates spreads his evil influence, BTW. It’s how they gain control of media, social media, big tech, etc. How they force DIE and SEG on companies, too.

    — Wolf Moon (@WOLFM00N) February 9, 2023

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  5. Citizen 817
    February 9, 2023 12:34 am

    @realDonaldTrump

    2h
    A great honor to have done so!

    @VanSickleLeehttps://static-assets-1.truthsocial.com/tmtg:prime-ts-assets/media_attachments/files/109/832/209/720/244/784/original/36704c43c3be4cb2.jpg

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      1. crap, the photo/meme didn’t post.
        it was DJT right after 9-11, paying for and providing additional crews to search for survivors…before he had any presidential aspirations. he always loved this country and its people

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  6. Citizen 817
    Citizen 817
    February 9, 2023 12:36 am

    Dr. Fauci Admits COVID Shots Didn’t Have A Chance Of Controlling The Pandemic

    The latest admission was made in a recent publication that some believe is an attempt to get in front of the information curve before he is subpoenaed to appear before the new Congress, which he is likely to find markedly unfriendlier than when Nancy Pelosi served as speaker.

    “Because these viruses generally do not elicit complete and durable protective immunity by themselves, they have not to date been effectively controlled by licensed or experimental vaccines,” Fauci and his co-authors, David Morens and Jeffrey Taubenberger of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), wrote in the paper.

    https://dailycaller.com/2023/02/07/anthony-fauci-natural-immunity-coronavirus-covid-vaccines/

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    1. they pick half of the “pool” to start with…30 people and ask them questions to see if they’d be suitable jurors. I was 29…lol
      then they begin to whittle us down …they pick 12 jurors and 2 alternates–I was the last to be picked alternate #2. we had to sit with the jury, hear all the evidence. when it came time for the jury to deliberate we were not allowed in, but not allowed to leave either.

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    2. the case itself was pretty interesting. there’s a deer farmer in our county (didn’t know that) and his neighbor’s german shepherds were harassing his deer (they were in fenced acre sized pens) to the point that some deer got caught tangled in the fences leaving them defenseless. the dogs were biting at the deer’s snouts…and causing chaos in the herd. the deer farmer shot the dogs dead. he immediately called the police and they came out and did a cursory investigation. they told him he did nothing wrong. the DA filed aggravated cruelty to animal charges a month later.

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        1. they found him not guilty on shooting the first dog, but guilty on the second. I asked them as we were leaving later why. they figured the second dog, given his position away from the fences was probably running away after the first dog was shot, thereby the deer farmer was not justified in shooting it.
          I would have voted innocent on both. but i get their reasoning.

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            1. i agree. but there’s a chance the dog owner would have accepted her responsibility and kept the 2nd dog leashed.
              altho she has a 3rd shepherd–and older one (12 yrs old). she admitted she NEVER leashes that one because she”never roams”. which i took as an admission that the other 2 DO roam…

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    3. the dog’s owner claimed she always had her dogs on 30 foot run leashes…however the deer farmer called multiple times to claim about the dogs roaming free all over his property, terrifying his wife, and attacking their chickens.

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        1. there is a lease law in the township which she violated. she plead guilty and paid the fine. but her story on the stand wasn’t convincing–that this was the ONLY time they were off the leash.
          the defendant provided numerous photos (altho the DA noted there were no time stamps on the photos) you could clearly see the different seasons in them–snow, fall colored trees, green grass.

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          1. No doubt! Yeah, we might get a little bit of freezing rain here today and it’s really windy, cloudy. Possibly a little bit of snow tomorrow but if we do, it won’t be much. Close to half of the snow we had has already melted. I can’t see the dirt yet in the garden beds but the top rails on both are now visible.

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            1. walking to and from my car yesterday I spotted a new shop on main street there–laser engraving. but in the window were gorgeous feeders. wooden parts, and i’m guessing engraved plastic (?) clear parts. pricey though–especially considering the damage squirrels and birds could do to them

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              1. oh…there’s another new place opening up–I only saw the name on the window–coming soon…The Self Love Club.
                the windows were covered in paper so you can’t see what’s going on in there…but, gees!

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  7. Citizen 817
    February 9, 2023 12:38 am

    @WallStreetApes

    8h
    Egg yolks inhibit spike protein attachment and lower covid infection by almost 30%

    They want you sick. Sick is profitable. More sickness, more vaccines, more globalists control. This is #CrimesAgainstHumanity but the only people who care are the ones not taking their money. #mRNA #DiedSuddenly #BillGates #WorldEconomicForum

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  8. Issue: February 8, 2023
    “Telehealth companies face investigation for sharing data with Facebook — Lawmakers want answers.”
    By Didi Rankovic
    Posted 1:01 pm

    ENTIRE ARTICLE: “Research and reports about the way telehealth companies track and monetize people’s sensitive data have spurred a bipartisan group of senators to action. The investigation was carried out by STAT, revealing that a number of telehealth firms give health information to ad giants like Google and Facebook, among others. The results, published under the title, “Out of Control,” showed that out of 50 telehealth sites, only one was not sharing patient data using tracking tools provided by Big Tech behemoths.

    Now Democrats Amy Klobuchar and Maria Cantwell, and Republicans Susan Collins and Cynthia Lummis want three of those companies – Monument, Workit Health, and Cerebral – to provide further information about the data deals. They made this request in a letter that stressed that, given the nature of the information that’s extremely personal and coming from patients, sharing it for targeted advertising could cause physical, psychological, or emotional harm.

    The letter wants the three companies to disclose all third-parties they’ve given data to during the past three years, and provide details about the type of information shared.

    While telehealth is becoming more popular and can improve access to “undeserved patient communities,” the senators noted – “this access should not come at the cost of exposing personal and identifiable information to the world’s largest advertising ecosystems.” The senators want answers to their questions by February 10, and specifically want to know if either of the three companies has given giant platforms information that could identify somebody as suffering from addiction, or a mental disorder.

    This is relevant especially given that two of the three mentioned in the letter – Workit Health and Cerebral – can provide prescriptions for controlled substances. The ability of a telehealth company to do this is another negative effect of the pandemic rules, which allowed them to include this option in their offer of services to patients.

    Regarding the type of information that is or was being shared, STAT said 35 out of 50 sites had trackers harvesting identifiable information like names, emails, and phone numbers, and that these trackers were sending data to “at least one tech company.”

    The senators’ initiative comes shortly after a $1.5 billion settlement reached between the Federal Trade Commission and GoodRx that shared data with Facebook, Google, and others for advertising purposes.”

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  9. almost forgot…we were supposed to take a 10 minute break early afternoon yesterday…but it turned into a half hour. we were later informed the courthouse had been in lockdown because a guy who came in to renew his pistol permit–BROUGHT THE GUN with him…LOL.
    they had to do a building sweep and so forth and unbeknownst to us, we were locked in the jury room.

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  10. Issue: February 8, 2023
    “Airbnb apologizes after trying to ban parents of political commentator Lauren Southern — Ban by association.”
    By Cindy Harper
    Posted 5:36 pm
    ENTIRE ARTICLE: “As US tech companies quietly took over many aspects of life, they also quietly exported their ideas and rules across the world, doing things that traditional businesses they aim to replace would never do.

    In one such case, Airbnb has apologized after it banned the parents of conservative commentator Lauren Southern from using the service for the “crime” of being closely associated with her. “My parents just got banned from Airbnb for being related to me,” Southern wrote on Twitter.

    “They have never booked anything for me. They do not represent me in any way. They aren’t publicly political in any way. How is this sane in any way @Airbnb.”

    A screenshot of the ban notice showed that Airbnb banned her parents because their “account is closely associated with a person who isn’t allowed to use Airbnb. This means you’ll no longer be able to book reservations on Airbnb.”

    Airbnb’s message did not explain why Southern is not allowed to use the service. The platform is also yet to provide comment on this story.

    After Southern posted about the incident on Twitter, Airbnb responded saying, “We reviewed your appeal and made the decision to restore your account.” However, Southern says her parents never appealed. “They’re trying to make this look like a mistake due to bad PR. It was not. They just miscalculated how far they could go.”

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  11. Citizen 817
    February 9, 2023 1:56 am

    @DC_Draino

    ·
    4h
    So Biden just let a Chinese spy balloon with unknown technology fly across the entire United States a few days ago and now every social media platform was shutdown today, including the power and internet in parts of Congress

    I’m sure it’s not related

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  12. j x
    j x
    February 9, 2023 2:22 am

    the [FBI] Washington field office refused to let its colleagues in Boston review surveillance video from the Capitol to see if any of the 140 attendees had committed crimes. The answer he got back raised concerns about whether the FBI had undercovers — or informants — at the site, he said.”When you ask for footage,” he recalled, “what they’ll come back with is ‘Tell us the exact place and time where you think the subject of your investigation was?’ To which the standard reply is, ‘Well, we don’t know because we can’t see the footage.’ And the comeback then is ‘There may be identities within that footage that we need to protect.’

    https://justthenews.com/accountability/whistleblowers/new-whistleblower-says-fbi-tried-open-criminal-cases-140-people-just

    “There may be identities within that footage that we need to protect.” Oh really?????

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  13. Troublemaker10
    February 9, 2023 2:56 am

    If you’re mad at Trump for attacking Desantis, imagine how Trump must feel knowing the man he rescued is plotting a run against him by conspiring w the very establishment that tired to destroy him

    It doesn’t get much colder than that

    — johnny maga (@_johnnymaga) February 9, 2023

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  14. Troublemaker10
    February 9, 2023 3:45 am

    House Speaker Kevin McCarthy Responds to Tense Exchange Between Romney and Santos

    Excerot:

    When confronted by CNN’s Manu Raju about Romney’s “disappointment” that Santos had not resigned, McCarthy reportedly told Raju, “Romney should be disappointed that Swalwell hasn’t resigned.”

    https://resistthemainstream.com/house-speaker-kevin-mccarthy-responds-to-tense-exchange-between-romney-and-santos/?utm_source=gettr

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  15. EXCLUSIVE: Stunning new data pulled from the Medicare database shows how each shot increases your risk of death — We can now see very clearly what is going on. Shot #1 bumps your risk of death by around 20%. Shot # 2 bumps it another 20%. Shot #3 bumps your risk another 10%.

    Steve Kirsch
    6 hr ago

    EXCERPT: “Executive summary — I’m still gathering data from Medicare, but a consistent picture is emerging for Medicare participants under 80 years old:

    Shot #1 increases your risk of death by around 20% with an exponential time constant of around 150 days.

    Shot #2 increases your risk of death by an additional 20% with a time constant of around 100 days.

    Shot #3 increases your risk of death by an additional 10% with a time constant of around 50 days.

    Due to the limitations of the Medicare data (missing vaccination data on nearly half the records), it’s not clear whether the shots reduce your risk of death from COVID. We need data that the public health authorities refuse to provide. If the shots worked, they’d want to make this data public. Keeping the data under wraps suggests that the shots not only make you more likely to die from all causes, but they also make you more likely to die from COVID.

    The data — Here’s the data. I’ll explain more in the next section.

    https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/exclusive-stunning-new-data-pulled

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        1. the other alternate juror and I were talking while waiting for the verdict–she makes what she calls “functional” crap art…LOL
          I bet she makes those tables–or would LOVE to make those!
          her cat is 23 years old (!) and she made her a tiny staircase (very small steps height- wise) so the cat could get to the sofa.

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  16. TwoLaine-President, Legal President #45 Fan Club
    TwoLaine-President, Legal President #45 Fan Club
    February 9, 2023 8:41 am

    “Before it was over, she was struck nearly 40 times, most of the blows delivered by MPD Commander Jason Bagshaw. She was struck directly in the skull, repeatedly punched in the face and head, grabbed by the hair and spun around violently, and tossed back and forth between officers.

    Bagshaw wasn’t disciplined or charged for the beating. The Metropolitan Police Department deemed all of its use of force on Jan. 6, 2021, as “objectively reasonable.””

    Victoria White, Beaten by Police With Metal Baton on Head on Jan. 6, to Decline Plea Deal
    By Joseph M. Hanneman
    8 Feb 2023
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/victoria-white-beaten-by-police-with-metal-baton-on-head-on-jan-6-to-decline-plea-deal_5039352.html

    “Use-of-force expert Stan Kephart, who also appeared in The Epoch Times documentary, said the attack on White was deadly force.“

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  17. Aw hell! FJB admin is now ending the use of most of the border blimps, thereby making it much harder for border patrol to track people…..they have re-directed the funding to soft-sided facilities, processing and humanitarian efforts, meaning carrying, feeding and transporting illegal aliens.

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  18. “Here Come the Data – 10% Drop in Fertility in German and Sweden Following Vaccination Program”

    James Lyons-Weiler
    5 min ago

    ENTIRE ARTICLE: “Fertility declines near the end of the COVID-19 pandemic: Evidence of the 2022 birth declines in Germany and Sweden”

    “Following the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, several countries faced short-term fertility declines in 2020 and 2021, a development which did not materialize in Scandinavian and German-speaking countries. However, more recent birth statistics show a steep fertility decline in the aftermath of the pandemic in 2022. We aim to provide data on the unexpected birth decline in 2022 in Germany and Sweden and relate these data to pandemic-related contextual developments which could have influenced the post-pandemic fertility development. We rely on monthly birth statistics and present seasonally adjusted monthly Total Fertility Rates (TFR) for Germany and Sweden. We relate the nine-months lagged fertility rates to contextual developments regarding COVID-19 mortality and morbidity, unemployment rates, and COVID-19 vaccinations.

    The seasonally adjusted monthly TFR of Germany dropped from 1.5-1.6 in 2021 to 1.3-1.4 in 2022, a decline of about 14 %. In Sweden, the corresponding TFR dropped from about 1.7 in 2021 to 1.5-1.6 in 2022, a decline of almost 10 %. There is no association of the fertility trends with changes in unemployment, infection rates, or COVID-19 deaths. However, there is a strong association between the onset of vaccination programmes and the fertility decline nine months after of this onset. The fertility decline in the first months of 2022 in Germany and Sweden is remarkable. Common explanations of fertility change during the pandemic do not apply in its aftermath. The association between the onset of mass vaccinations and subsequent fertility decline indicates that people adjusted their behaviour to get vaccinated before becoming pregnant, as societies were opening up with post-pandemic life conditions. Our study provides novel information on fertility declines in countries previously not affected by any COVID-19 baby bust. We provide a first appraisal of the COVID-19-fertility nexus in the immediate aftermath of the pandemic.”

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  19. Holy shit! I’ve been invaded by a HUGE flock of Starlings!!!! Could be blackbirds I guess but they’re awfully small – last year, I didn’t see even one Starling all year and I’ve not seen them in the winter before! Very strange movement of the birds, seems to me….

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  20. ultra maggot blames “staffers” who packed up his offices.
    FTA
    President Joe Biden is blaming the discovery of classified documents from his time as vice president and senator on former staffers who packed up his old offices.

    “One of the things that happened is that what was not done well is, as they packed up my offices to move them, they didn’t do the kind of job that should have been done to go thoroughly through every single piece of literature that’s there,” Biden said Wednesday in an interview with Judy Woodruff on “PBS NewsHour” in DeForest, Wisconsin, where Biden traveled to talk about the economy.

    Biden didn’t specify whether the packing job was from after he left the Senate in 2009 or when his term as vice president ended in 2017.

    Classified documents from Biden’s time as a senator and as Barack Obama’s vice president were found at Biden’s home in Wilmington, Delaware, and at an office at the Penn Biden Center in Washington. 

    Attorney General Merrick Garland named Robert Hor as special counsel to lead the investigation into the documents. House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer, R-Ky., has also pledged to hold hearings on alleged influence peddling by the Biden family. Biden said he’s not concerned about any upcoming House investigations.

    “The public is not going to pay attention to that,” he said. “They want these guys to do something. If the only thing they’re going to do is make up things about my family, it’s not going to go very far.”

    The first thing Biden said after Woodruff asked about the classified documents was: “They informed me not to speak on this issue in any way that would prejudice the investigation that’s going on.” He did not say who told him not to speak about it.

    Biden made a bit of a rambling statement regarding his cooperation with the investigation and the types of documents discovered, which he said were from his early days as a U.S. senator.

    “I’m not at liberty, and I’m not even sure, I may voluntarily, no one has had to threaten to do anything, voluntarily open every single aperture I have, with the house, offices, everything for them to come and look and spend hours searching my home … invited them,” Biden said. “And the best to my knowledge, the kinds of things they picked up are things that are from 1974. Stray papers. Maybe something else, I don’t know.”

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/joe-biden-classified-documents/2023/02/08/id/1107898/

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      1. oh yeah.
        still doesn’t explain how he HAD classified docs in his possession at the office.
        someone was responsible for returning them at that time, no??

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  21. SD thread about theUS House of Representatives Twitter investigation:

    More: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/02/08/inside-baseball-stuff-about-the-house-oversight-committee-and-the-twitter-censorship-hearing/

    He’s right about this…. the words Congressional inquiry/investigation/hearing/committee/special counsel – are all worthless, meaningless, wastes of time and money – and are without consequence….

    Our Congress has become a heaping stinking steaming pile of political drama, kibuki theater.

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    1. The ONLY difference this time is the presence of people like MTG, Boebert, Chip Roy, Matt Gaetz, etc. – they will need a LOT more than that to really make any difference, but it’s a start at least….

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  22. EXCERPT: “In addition to the involuntary manslaughter charge against him, Alec Baldwin is now facing a “firearm enhancement” charge from New Mexico prosecutors, which carries with it a five-year penalty for “discharge of a firearm in the course of a felony,” as reported by Variety. However, the enhancement didn’t become incorporated into New Mexico law until May 2022, seven months after Halyna Hutchins was killed. As such, it’s unclear if a judge will allow this to be applied to Baldwin during the forthcoming trial.

    As such, First Judicial District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies and her appointed special prosecutor, Andrea Reeb, are looking into the issue. Hannah Gutierrez Reed is also facing the firearm enhancement charge, and her attorney, Jason Bowles, claims that the New Mexico D.A.’s office has “clearly charged an enhancement that is barred by the constitution and ex post facto law.” When the shooting on the Rust set occurred in late 2021, New Mexico law did allow for a three-year enhancement for “brandishing” a firearm during the course of a felony, but “brandish” was specifically defined as requiring “intent to intimidate or injure a person.”

    The involuntary manslaughter charges that Alec Baldwin and Hannah Gutierrez Reed are each facing carry a prison sentence of up to 18 months. As such, if both that charge and the firearm enhancement were to stick, they would be facing a maximum of up to six and a half years in prison. Baldwin and Reed are set to make their initial court appearances virtually on February 24, but Baldwin’s attorneys have already filed a motion to disqualify Andrea Reeb, arguing that her appointment as the case’s special prosector “violates the separation of powers provision in the state constitution” since she was elected to New Mexico’s House of Representatives last November.”

    https://www.cinemablend.com/movies/alec-baldwin-may-face-an-extra-five-years-in-prison-due-to-a-new-law-in-rust-shooting-case

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          1. “Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has been accused of committing a “massive capitulation” by conservatives as he looks to limit Disney’s special status in Florida law, as part of an ongoing row with the company.

            A new bill introduced to the Florida state legislature on Monday hopes to limit the control the company is able to exert through the Reedy Creek Improvement District, a special government entity that oversees an area that has effectively been managed by the company for half a century and is home to its Disney World resort.

            The bill would give DeSantis the ability to appoint the five board members who run the district, who must be confirmed by state senators. It also bars those who have worked for Disney within three years or their relatives from becoming board members.
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            “Florida is dissolving the corporate kingdom and beginning a new era of accountability and transparency,” Bryan Griffin, DeSantis’ press secretary, told Bloomberg, noting that the established legislation “gifted extraordinary special privileges to a single corporation.”

            However, detractors have said that the new bill does nothing to change Disney’s tax status within the district, and argue that it does not significantly alter its special status in Florida law.
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            Alex Bruesewitz, a conservative political strategist, wrote: “So Desantis’ big stand against woke Disney amounts to: changing the name of Reedy Creek & DeSantis gets to appoint some of his donors to the board? But Disney gets to keep its nearly tax-free, regulation-free status.”
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            The proposed legislation would rename Reedy Creek as the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District but states that the new entity will maintain the old one’s debt obligations in outstanding bonds—more than $1.1 billion—and its ability to collect taxes from the area it oversees.

            According to an analysis conducted on behalf of the Florida House State Affairs Committee, “the bill maintains the current tax-exempt status of property of the district and bonds issued by the district.”

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